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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Art critique workshop Reply with quote

this was an idea that poecilotheria_27 suggested for a forum thread.

this is an open thread for artists who use this forum to post there works of any type for the porpuses of reciveing critique from other artists. anyone can post and any one can give critique.

a few rules to abid by....

1. all criticism MUST BE CONSTRUCTIVE.

2. respect others work, and they will respect yours.

3. use hyperlink insted of putting images directly into the thread
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guess i'll start things off.

http://marx-paragon.deviantart.com/art/Star-siege-deviantID-119598897

http://marx-paragon.deviantart.com/art/1000-Pageview-120387632
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry about trying to post pictures directly into the thread... too many images will slow the loading time of pages to a crawl... hypertext links work better for this sort of thing...

First picture is fun, I agree with one of the other commentors on the page, it's very "Tron"-like. To add more depth, you can try to add a bit of highlights to the robot's chasis, sort of like light glinting off the edges as the sun rises behind it, while keeping the majority of the object in silhouette. You already have an example of what I mean in the penumbra (the lit up space) of that large moon or whatever it is in the background.

I really like the second one, very trippy, I should get my hands on the program you mention in the comments.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyPsycho wrote:
Don't worry about trying to post pictures directly into the thread... too many images will slow the loading time of pages to a crawl... hypertext links work better for this sort of thing...

First picture is fun, I agree with one of the other commentors on the page, it's very "Tron"-like. To add more depth, you can try to add a bit of highlights to the robot's chasis, sort of like light glinting off the edges as the sun rises behind it, while keeping the majority of the object in silhouette. You already have an example of what I mean in the penumbra (the lit up space) of that large moon or whatever it is in the background.

I really like the second one, very trippy, I should get my hands on the program you mention in the comments.


yea your right about the links....

thnx for the feedback johnny, means alot to me to hear what people think about my work Smile . both of these images are completed and i was asking for critique becuase i wanted to see were other poeple thought i messed up, thats how we learn, from our mistakes.

if you want i can link you to the program that i used to make these images, if your interested Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love to give critique on people's writing and drawing, but when they want it, of course. ^^! but I'm really bad giving critique because I have problems saying what I wan to say, but my words sometimes end with me saying something mean to the writer or the artist, so I hope you bear with me, Mr. Marx. ^^!

The first picture: I like the starry sky, very nice. I also the like the robot's scythe. Very cool. The moon (I think) and the illuminating light was the objects that caught my attention. Is really good. :3

The second picture: When I saw the second picture, the first thought that came to my mind was that I am looking at an unknown far away galaxy. Is that good.

Above all, you did a good job, Mr. Marx. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lidia_Apricot wrote:
I love to give critique on people's writing and drawing, but when they want it, of course. ^^! but I'm really bad giving critique because I have problems saying what I wan to say, but my words sometimes end with me saying something mean to the writer or the artist, so I hope you bear with me, Mr. Marx. ^^!

The first picture: I like the starry sky, very nice. I also the like the robot's scythe. Very cool. The moon (I think) and the illuminating light was the objects that caught my attention. Is really good. :3

The second picture: When I saw the second picture, the first thought that came to my mind was that I am looking at an unknown far away galaxy. Is that good.

Above all, you did a good job, Mr. Marx. Smile


thank you for your kind words my dear, it means a lot Cool and dont worry about sounding overly criticall, i cant speak for other members who post art on this thread, but any one who thinks that someone as kind as you are could be anything but kind, is themeselves a fool.

your right about the moon, and the lower picture is actually a picture of a nebulea(cloud of space dust, for you earthilngs) i should of made the starfield bigger, so it would be more obvious. well better luck next time

hmm.... "Mr." Marx. i like it, but it does make me feel alittle old though....
please, call me marx, "Mr." Marx is my father Laughing (yea, i know, lame)

(on a side note, your new avatar keeps distracting me, gotta' become a member so i can see the full thing in the four aces suite)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheesh. You sound like, Mr. Johnny.

What's with all the men here whom does not like to be call, "Mr."?! (except for Mr. Ronald...I think) Come on! I'm trying to be respectful here. >w<

Edit: I'm so sorry about that. I lost my temper there a moment ago. V-V
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No fear my dear Ms. Lidia, I don't mind the suffix at all myself, just don't call me Mr. Maxtor, like Marx said before - thats my dad.

Anyways I thought I'd give drawing another shot. I'm not all that great at it but it's better than the last attempts. By the way, I don't have any of that picture manipulation (editing) software or anything like that, and I'm on a tight budget this month. Is there any good inexpensive programs out there?

That being said here is the link:

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/Talmar_album/scan0001.jpg

Let me now what you think.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have much time at the moment to go through all of these yet, but I'll throw a few of mine in there real quick and comment on others tomorrow...

These are all done with pencil on Arches hotpress watercolor paper

Alley Baggett
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A little kitten I did for my daughter...
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Jack Torrance, The Shining. I'll take a pic of it later, the scan looks a bit choppy...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marx-Paragon wrote:
guess i'll start things off.

http://marx-paragon.deviantart.com/art/Star-siege-deviantID-119598897

http://marx-paragon.deviantart.com/art/1000-Pageview-120387632

im havin' trouble figuring out how to get the images directly into this thread, but above there are some links for the images i want critique on, enjoy Cool


Both of those are awesome, great work. No critique on them accept nice work! What did you do this with?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niam Maxtor wrote:
No fear my dear Ms. Lidia, I don't mind the suffix at all myself, just don't call me Mr. Maxtor, like Marx said before - thats my dad.

Anyways I thought I'd give drawing another shot. I'm not all that great at it but it's better than the last attempts. By the way, I don't have any of that picture manipulation (editing) software or anything like that, and I'm on a tight budget this month. Is there any good inexpensive programs out there?

That being said here is the link:

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/Talmar_album/scan0001.jpg

Let me now what you think.


This looks good, is it done? You have the proportions looking realistic, was this drawn freehand or on the pc?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drew it freehand, and then traced it onto some vellum and scanned it, I haven't cleaned or colored it yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's good, it resembles alot of these avatars... Surprised
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, thats what I'm trying for, although I can't wait until I get my avatar drawn by Vanessa.

by the way, to Marx both pictures look great, and to Poeceilotheria I wish I could craw like that....excellent work.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i apologize lidia, i wasnt trying to offend. i was mearly joking around.
i cant speak for niam, but i am honored that you wish to treat me with such a high level of respect, so long as you allow me to call you "Miss" lidia, then you may call me as you see fit^^

niam, the image is lookin' good, if you want photomanipulation software download this prog called "GIMP". as good as photoshop, but the best part? its free AND its legit^^

http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html

peo, your first image wont show on the site you use for some odd reason, but the other two sketches look amazing, you are a great traditional artist. like niam, i wish i could draw like that.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the link. And I meant no offense if it was taken that way, Lidia.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I know I'm not that great an artist but I'll give it a shot.
Here are a few that I thought turned out rather well.

http://shadowconley.deviantart.com/art/Iron-Man-flight-119756762

http://shadowconley.deviantart.com/art/Raven-119756664

http://shadowconley.deviantart.com/art/Iron-Man-at-the-Cpt-s-grave-119755700

http://shadowconley.deviantart.com/art/KH-II-inked-119756481

http://shadowconley.deviantart.com/art/ARC-Trooper-Blue-87626859

Please let me know what you think and feel free to look through the rest of my gallery as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowFox13 wrote:
Well I know I'm not that great an artist but I'll give it a shot.
Here are a few that I thought turned out rather well.

http://shadowconley.deviantart.com/art/Iron-Man-flight-119756762

http://shadowconley.deviantart.com/art/Raven-119756664

http://shadowconley.deviantart.com/art/Iron-Man-at-the-Cpt-s-grave-119755700

http://shadowconley.deviantart.com/art/KH-II-inked-119756481

http://shadowconley.deviantart.com/art/ARC-Trooper-Blue-87626859

Please let me know what you think and feel free to look through the rest of my gallery as well.


Shocked Wow those are really good, have you ever concidered having a digital artist color any of 'em?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

work in progress image

http://marx-paragon.deviantart.com/art/WIP-feylin-city-121021453

an image that im working on and would like some feedback on, im not gonna use the sketch as the final product, but i am gonna color it using GIMP, the sketch just provides a basic layout.

the figure walking towards the cliff at the lower right, is a member of a cat-like race(those horn things on his head are supposed to be cat-ears) im gonna redo him and his cloak soon, and im also planing on expanding the area around the pyramid to include a city..... also do those dunes look right to you guys, im not sure.

btw im sorry about the poor image quality, my scanner isnt great. once i finishe the sketch the colored image will look much better and more like my other work.
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://marx-paragon.deviantart.com/art/feylin-city-WiP-2-121254239

same image but i have come alot further on it Cool i have a question though, do you guys think i should keep those buildings near the pyramid, if so i am gonna add more of them, but i think the perspective's off.

please let me know what you think, im close to getting this image colored.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lidia_Apricot wrote:
Sheesh. You sound like, Mr. Johnny.

What's with all the men here whom does not like to be call, "Mr."?! (except for Mr. Ronald...I think) Come on! I'm trying to be respectful here. >w<

Edit: I'm so sorry about that. I lost my temper there a moment ago. V-V
Aww. You can call me Mr. Tadelesh any time, hun. Smile

I'm no good at critiquing art. I may link to some of my art to be critiqued but I don't have any at the moment that I want to be critiqued.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the one I'm currently working on. This is my son Heath, he's 5 months old. This is his first time in a swing Surprised

This is still in a very rough stage, I've laid out an outline and shaded the basic base tones of the skin. This is on 23" x 31" Arches 300lb hot pressed watercolor paper. I'll have another day working on the skin shading and details of the face and hands, I might do the hat before I complete the skin so I have a direct comparison to what I'm competing against.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

most excellent work, as always I am left speechless.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice, are you keeping it as a pencil drawing, or will you be painting it later? I only ask because you mention it's on Watercolor paper... Myself, I much prefer doing black & white in either pencil or ink (just did a pencil drawing of one of my nieces a couple years back as a Christmas present... wish I had a scan of it to show off right now)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comments. My shoulder is sore as can be from drawing too much.

I don't consider any of this done yet, once I get it all to this stage, I'll layer the entire thing with the hard H pencils.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still much to do... working on the background at the moment...
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O_O........... thats pretty godamn umpressive
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