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Poecilotheria_27 Rank: Junior Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:03 am Post subject: |
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This whole thing is VERY unbelievable is the point I'm trying to make there. I believe there are several holes in this story, and the entire truth isn't there. Either way, I'm not interested in getting into a negative conversation over this. The last thing I'm going to say is that I hope the best for the little girl, and I hope the justice system does it's job correctly and a happy child comes out of this.
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Rune174 Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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I see your point PT, but the whole matter was just that I try to be optimistic, even in RL because there is enough negative thoughts going on this world. But I get what you mean in some respects, I just don't like being on people's bad sides, whether I agree or disagree on their actions. _________________
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Poecilotheria_27 Rank: Junior Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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...and I can respect your point. I've been through the court system several times, once for custody of my daughter. I've been in jail and listened to countless stories from inmates. Its not at all that I'm trying to be negative, I'm being realistic. If happiness is to come from this, she'll need to be realistic herself. Being optimistic can many times lead to negativity in the long run because you won't be prepared like the realistic lawyer who is against you.  |
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JohnnyPsycho Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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I've tried to say very little in these threads as well, only offering encouraging words when I felt necessary, but Poe brings up a good point... we only have one side of the story, told by a faceless person who assures us that everything she says is the truth.
This doesn't change how I feel about this situation, I still think it sounds like a horrible situation for both Assandra and her child to be in, but at the same time I also am willing to believe that most, if not all, of the story she's been telling us could be a complete fabrication. I don't want to sound cruel, but when you've been on message boards, social networking sites, and chat sites as long as I have, you always have to take anything you read on the interenet with a touch of skepticism, a dash of scrutiny, and a grain of salt.
To Cassadre, I offer perhaps the best advice I've ever been given in these kinds of stressful situations: hope for the best, prepare for the worst. _________________ Johnny's Fanfics (including Sureshot! A Bon Bon Tale)
Johnny's backstory
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Cassandre Rank: Super Veteran

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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We are, trust me, we are. Rob and I have met, with our lawyers, a few times, to talk about what we'll do, depending on the situation.
We have decided on these things:
1) If I get custody, he won't complain. He will leave us alone, and will marry Cassie as planned.
2) If he gets custody, I won't complain. I will leave them alone, and I will stay in France, or go to England.
3) Joint custody. We will stay in America, and Rob and I will live apart, and she will be living with us on these terms: For two weeks, she will stay with me, and the next week, she will be with Rob. He has agreed to this, because he has decided wtih him having children with Cassie, it would be an akward situation with Cammilia.
So, PC, does this seem more realistic to you? Because these are the terms we have agreed to. _________________ [insert witty comment] |
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Marx-Paragon Rank: Veteran

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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personally, i wouldnt trust him to follow through with any of these terms. _________________
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Cassandre Rank: Super Veteran

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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he knows if he doesn't, I'm suing his ass. _________________ [insert witty comment] |
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Rune174 Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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On a lighter note. Cassandre, when did you become 'Mr. Fabulous'? lol _________________
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Cassandre Rank: Super Veteran

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Er, i don't know. maybe around post...37something? _________________ [insert witty comment] |
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Rune174 Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry, it was intended for a joke. You know, the rank Mr. Fabulous, when you are obviously a Mrs. or Miss Fabulous, lol. _________________
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Cassandre Rank: Super Veteran

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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ya, ya, i know.. _________________ [insert witty comment] |
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Rune174 Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Come on, cheer up. I'm sure things will turn out for the best. Despite the odds, I'm sure things will work themselves out. _________________
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Cassandre Rank: Super Veteran

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, I know...Its just....I don't how I'd be able to face her if it was joint custody, or if he got full custody.. _________________ [insert witty comment] |
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Rune174 Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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You know, when things feel their worst, just pray, don't even think about it, just put your hands together, and hope. The wheels of fate are already turning, and you can only accept it as it is, rather than worry about what it will become. _________________
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Cassandre Rank: Super Veteran

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I'll pray...I hope the Lady will hear, and help...
I need some incense. _________________ [insert witty comment] |
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lunerlancer Rank: Rookie

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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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As long as you have stable income, a home and a maximum of two jobs the jugde will give u costody. I know my
Dad tryed for 13 years before he died. _________________
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Cassandre Rank: Super Veteran

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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Well thats good. I do. He doesn't...So, I might get her? The chances are increased in my favor? _________________ [insert witty comment] |
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Marx-Paragon Rank: Veteran

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Cassandre wrote: | Well thats good. I do. He doesn't...So, I might get her? The chances are increased in my favor? |
well if you have a job and he doesnt, than thats one of the things that your lawyer should bring to the attention of the courts, thats also something his lawyer will try to keep out of court _________________
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Cassandre Rank: Super Veteran

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Oh goody!
And I cannot believe I just said that.
I was bored, and looking around custody and child parenting laws and such, and found some interesting thigs:
1) it is ilegal to adopt a child in a same sex marriage.
2) It is perfectly legal to take a foster child from same sex marriage.
3) You can and probably will be seen as an unfit mother by the courts if you are a lesbian.
Thats just cruel. _________________ [insert witty comment] |
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:16 am Post subject: |
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To say the least, it is. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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Shadow_Twisted Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Part of the sad truth is that there is no adequate separation between church and state in America. The reason? Christians make up a majority of the voting population and as such, their views are generally the more commonly accepted because people want to get re-elected. Part of the problem with our Democracy is it leads people in power to do what is popular more than do what is right. With the exception of George W. Bush, he was too stupid to realize he was doing the wrong AND unpopular thing towards the end.
Anyways, since the Bible talks about homosexuality being a crime against God, it can't be allowed by our law. Though, the funny thing is that the Greeks, as I recall, were the originators of Democracy and the men not only were into homosexuality, but homosexual acts with young boys. |
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Drofgod969 Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Only if they agreed to it and when one got married they had to stop. _________________ yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. that's why it is called the present.
quoted by master Oogway off kong fu panda
Some weep, some cry, some make couches fly. - Katmir
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Rune174 Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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The sad thing is, America is such a prudish nation. With all the rights that are supposedly in the constitution, such as the freedom to speech and expression, simple things such as their expression of love for one gender or the other is so biased.
I myself don't mind homosexual individuals, even if I'm not one, but I keep an open mind because if that is how people feel, then people should be entitled to engage in their 'pursuit of happiness'.
Its not like god put the commandment 'Though Shalt Not Be Gay' in the Commandments, and the bible was written and interpretted by many generations. This in turn could have diluted their inputs on any given level. Hell, the church has even confiscated and discredited certain sections of the bible from ever being pubished. _________________
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Marx-Paragon Rank: Veteran

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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this is exactly why im agnostic  _________________
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Shadow_Twisted Royal Member of BonBon

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Hell yeah AGNOSTIC!!!
*gives marx a pat on the back*
Raised Christian and I'm a logical thinker, so that didn't last long. I still feel that there is some form of higher power and that living your life in a positive way is good, but why the %&*^ should the details matter? |
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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i agree with that 100%
although i respect religion (and those who practice it), due to the fact that it unites people who woulg otherwise never be willing to work together, i find the most of it is BS. sorry if that offended anyone here  _________________
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lunerlancer Rank: Rookie

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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The court of the queens bench in Canada no longer sees religen as a part of the legal system. Including but not limited is the " do u swear to tell the truth so help you god" bit.you don't have to say that. They just warn u what will happen if u lie. As for homosexuality, you have the same rights as hetrosexual couples. It's the equal rights law _________________
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Cassandre Rank: Super Veteran

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Frankley, I think Christianity is a retarded religion. Sorry if i have offended, but i think it is. I'm Wiccan, which is also known as Witch Craft. In the Bible, it is also considered a crime against God to be a witch.
I have been fired from jobs for telling somebody at work that my religion was the Craft. She told our boss. I got fired.
I have lost friends because I told them I was the Craft. She was a Christian, and I did not know this, I thought she was an atheist.
You know, I don't blame my religion on this, i blame the fact that they're just to damn biased.
Also, I found out that:
1) A court support group will not give a domestic violence survivor the care they deserve if you are a) a male or b) a female surviving a female abusive partner.
2) Paramedics are perfectly entitled to stop treating a transgender.
3) Hundreds of people, male and female alike, die alone in the hospital because they're partner (especially same-sex) will not be let in the room.
Homophobia is so wrong.  _________________ [insert witty comment] |
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Jerin Nekros Rank: Veteran

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Not every christian is flamingly against anything that doesn't agree with their own views. Case point yours truly. I was raised by christian parents with the concept that you respect other peoples beliefs and opinions, and while you should try to convert no believers, you do it without ramming your view down their throats. Personally i find people with that zero tolerance attitude as disgusting as they see the people they hate so much. We live america, a nation ironically enough founded on the concept of avoiding religious persecution, and people should be free to practice what they believe. _________________ My Fursona(updates occasionally) http://forums.pleasurebonbon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7537
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Jerin Nekros wrote: | Not every christian is flamingly against anything that doesn't agree with their own views. Case point yours truly. I was raised by christian parents with the concept that you respect other peoples beliefs and opinions, and while you should try to convert no believers, you do it without ramming your view down their throats. Personally i find people with that zero tolerance attitude as disgusting as they see the people they hate so much. We live america, a nation ironically enough founded on the concept of avoiding religious persecution, and people should be free to practice what they believe. |
well i never siad i was agianst religion, but the one thing that really does piss me off about are the people that are constantly trying to convert you.
i know your a fiarly open minded person jerin, otherwise you most likely wouldnt be here  _________________
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