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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys you play too much MMO. Playing online is dealing with people that aren't skilled or mature enough to deal with social interaction properly. Maybe I am just too old but I still think that play alone or with a couple of handpicked friends is the funniest way to play.

Le jeu video à été un jeu solitaire pendant longtemps et il est encore bon comme ça.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catherine_Puce wrote:
Playing online is dealing with people that aren't skilled or mature enough to deal with social interaction properly.
I personally take offence at this statement!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well you got a good taste in a game, I love Fallout new Vegas, that's the game I play to relax...being ornery here but I bet you can cook a good brahmin steak! ....please Not the crotch.....

Anyways Silv. Micheal Jackson the game is not affecting my gaming experience but it is affecting the industry, there are just somethings you don't do. Lets see I'll find an example in another industry....REMAKING TRUE GRIT you just don't remake John Wayne movies! Besides that isn't there some make of vehicle that just pisses you off every time you see one? I am complaining because its the American way, There are somethings we all would be better off without.


I actually don't think I have enough "Survival" yet to make the Brahmin steak... but that's neither here nor there. And, the cooking comment was more for the fact that my character in WoW can cook, and being an achievement junkie, I'm now working on all the new Cataclysm cooking achievements.

Anyway, I don't think remakes or re-inventions or re-hashes are bad. How many re-tellings of Alice and Wonderland are there? Or Romeo and Juliet? Or The Seven Samurai? Or about Gilgamesh and Enduku? Or, for a bit of a geek spin, how many times has the Batman universe been reset or re-imagined? I'm going to come at this from the Batman animated side.

I love Kevin Conroy. I did most of my high school and college listening to his awesome voice play the roll of Bruce Wayne and Batman when Warner Bros. decided to try to make an animated Batman with a film noir feel too it. Kevin Conroy, to me, did an amazing job at having two separate voices, one for Bruce, the other for Batman. He was gravely, distant, cynical, dark, moody, and just barely-clinging to reality. He was awesome!

Now, with Batman: Brave and the Bold, Cartoon Network decided to have a new voice actor for Batman, that of Dedrich Bader. And in some ways I was really mad that they didn't put Kevin Conroy in for the role. But then, after watching a couple of the episodes, I realized why. BBATB is a different take on the Batman cannon. So, judging it against itself, Dedrich Bader does a really good Batman for BBATB. BBATB is a retelling of Batman. Instead of going for the film-noir-brooding hero, they decided to take it the more silver-age of comic style with the pun-humor and scripting. And, when you look at it like that, BBATB is a pretty good homage to that style of writing.

For Alice in Wonderland, the original story is very Wizard of Oz. It isn't really dark, or vicious, or overly sweet and campy. It's just Alice growing up. But how many different ways have you seen Alice? American McGee took a very gothic spin on Alice, but Disney made Alice more jovial and light hearted. Even Tim Burton's remake of Alice is a blend of jovial and Burton's own patented brand of weirdness.

So, remolding or reviving old stories isn't a bad thing. I'm not saying that the remake will be good. There are plenty of bad remakes. All I'm saying is that the remake should be judged against itself, not against the original.

Anyway, just my two cents.))
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I just hate when they screw up remakes.
I am Legend was good
Gone in 60 seconds doesn't live up to the original
Death Race sucked

Now here is another opinion:
Its good that they finally made the Transformers movies, but Micheal Bay has cheated the series out of its potential with stupid crap in the movies for example: "I'm under the enemy scrotum" Or The gangster talking robots, the two dogs humping in the beginning. Even the first one, Sam's special time and bumblebee leaking lubricant on the agents head. Crap like that may make it funny for people that didn't grow up watching transformers but it has cut the series short of its potential, I mean look at star wars it didn't have any of that crap in it.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thorne wrote:
Well I just hate when they screw up remakes.
I am Legend was good
Gone in 60 seconds doesn't live up to the original
Death Race sucked

Now here is another opinion:
Its good that they finally made the Transformers movies, but Micheal Bay has cheated the series out of its potential with stupid crap in the movies for example: "I'm under the enemy scrotum" Or The gangster talking robots, the two dogs humping in the beginning. Even the first one, Sam's special time and bumblebee leaking lubricant on the agents head. Crap like that may make it funny for people that didn't grow up watching transformers but it has cut the series short of its potential, I mean look at star wars it didn't have any of that crap in it.
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People like you really piss me off. You seem to have this inability to not get past this comparison garbage. You seem to feel the urge to compare something to its "original", stating that, because it is not exactly like the original, it is shit. You can't seem to look at something and see it apart from the rest. You can't see something for what it is. All you see it as is what you think it should be like. You say this is how it should be. This is what should have been done. It's people like you that I just want to choke. You think that you know how it should be and you fucking don't. You have nothing more than an opinion and you are welcome to that. But when you go spouting your opinion like it is fact, then you just get on my nerves.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did I say something wrong Silv?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thorne wrote:
What did I say something wrong Silv?

Im actually agreeing with Silvadore. Just because a game is remade, does not mean it cant be praised in itself. If it gained better graphics, or some things were switched to make it better, and people complain about it. Well I think they just cant handle change >.>
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I apologize, I am very opinionated! Its just how I am, I see something I think is half assed and I point it out, Its My American nature cut me some slack Very Happy . What exactly set you off?
Nothing is perfect thats just how the world works. My perfect vision of a car is a 70 metal truck, is there something wrong with it sure, it isn't reliable, it guzzles gas, and if I got in a wreck the truck might survive and I might not Very Happy !
Now to gaming I guess, if you couldn't spawn kill some one in a game it would make some one unhappy "Oh but I shot him in the head as soon as he spawned, he should have died!"
Everyone of my ideas can be picked apart in some way and thats just how it is, your right I am stating things that I think I know but I probably don't know everything about.
But I'm not as ignorant as you think. I've played Halo and Call of Duty for the past 2 or three years, there both good games, but they both have similar problems with spawn killing, getting out numbered, people modding. I'm just pointing it out, and it really doesn't needed pointed out it needs changed! And as gamers are opinion matters and it will eventually bring about change, who knows? Sorry I ticked you off, take a chill pill, I ain't here to piss anyone off.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its the simple fact that weather it is a movie, or a game thats remade, it will still bring in costumers. Rather then feel it is bastardizing your memory of it before, id rather feel it is nostalgia. Time have changed. So have humor. Everything will be remade eventually.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it comes to video games, I really don't mind remakes at all. The way I see it, it's just re-releasing a title to an audience who didn't have the chance to play the original. A lot of kids today don't have the luxury or money to afford the classic titles that are expensive as hell, hence why they just re-released Mario All-Stars for the Wii, Chrono Trigger for the DS, Mega Man Powered Up! for the PSP, and so on.

And not all remakes suck. The latest remake of GoldenEye 007 for the Wii was actually pretty impressive in my opinion. While it had its imperfections, it still was a great re-imagining of the original movie and N64 game and I thought it was about equally as good as the original.

From how I look at it, the major problem that people have with remakes, more sequels/prequels, or reboots is that there's a high Nostalgia factor involved. xxthalexx is right that humor, originality, and stories change in time. With age, people tend to always claim that the original will always be the best cause its, well, for lack of a better term, more original in its time and now the remake is just cashing in on the original's success. While in some cases it may be true, but more often than not, the original can get dated for its time and may not be able to relate to by current time. If you go back and look at the original King Kong, a lot of the dialogue and acting is really cheesy but that's how all films were done back in the 1920s, 30's, and 40's.

Plus, when you come right down to it, near nothing has been original in the past 20-30 years in Movies, Games, etc. Most media that's been a big success is mostly just remakes of originals. In some cases, their remakes at which now they can be more accepted because the original was before its time. In others, its cause the current remake has a bigger budget and is more flashy which grabs people's attention.

I'm no expert, but that's just my opinion which stems from 20+ years of playing video games, watching movies, and the like.

On a side note, has anyone seen the Tron Legacy? Is it any good? XD
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not seen Tron Legacy yet. I'm eager to see what it is like, though. I dislike the removal of the classic arcade style setting, but I can understand its absence. Games have evolved greatly since the original Tron, and so the setting would have likely evolved to match it.

As Bedlam just stated, for its time, Tron was magnificent. But in today's age, it would seem outdated and out of place. Though the evolved setting is not what I loved from the first one, it still looks great and I wait patiently to see how good the movie is.

On a side note. There are some things I would like to see "revamped". Imagine for a second the epic anime movie Akira redone by legendary director Jerry Bruckhiemer, Steven Speilberg or even Peter Jackson. Imagine Akira as a live action movie done with the massive budget that has seen so many mind blowing movies made these last few years.

That is of course based on the idea that it is done well and not totally butchered as Dragon Ball Z was.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must confess, I really don't want to see them remake Akira... it was such a mindfuck near the end that I don't think I want to see how today's directors or producers would re-imagine it. XD
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bedlam Fox wrote:
I must confess, I really don't want to see them remake Akira... it was such a mindfuck near the end that I don't think I want to see how today's directors or producers would re-imagine it. XD
HAHAHA! Yeah. I've watched that movie many times and still don't know what the fuck those kids were on about at the end.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

46. Grenade spam.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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46. Grenade spam.

LOL MW2 or black ops XD
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

47. Team mates who betray you to get the rocket launcher you just picked up.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or the sniper, or they destroy the wraith you worked to capture.
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47. When you are about to respawn in a Firefight match and the wave ends causing your respawn clock to reset, adding another 10 seconds.
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48: People who pass the game in the easiest setting and with cheats, then proceed to parade their victories over actual pro's online.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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47. When you are about to respawn in a Firefight match and the wave ends causing your respawn clock to reset, adding another 10 seconds.

ha hah ha
Ya that one sucks, the respawn time is shit! why is it so long? And games like capture the flag or hardcore on call of duty, I think the increased respawn time is a bitch!!
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