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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:51 pm    Post subject: North Korea! Reply with quote

This is something that's been bugging me for a while, and I just hope they finally sign a peace treaty to end all this nonsense!

And their nuclear warheads too!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we should send them a bouquet of flowers.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pre-emptive strike seems to be the only solution to this problem. North Korea will strike, its just a matter of when.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

China will most likely end any conflict due to their investments with American corporations and their money keeping the American debt from collapsing to a pit of no return.America won't enter a conflict until shot one gets fired.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BloodRaven wrote:
America won't enter a conflict until shot one gets fired.


And it'll probably be America that fires shot one.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvador wrote:
BloodRaven wrote:
America won't enter a conflict until shot one gets fired.


And it'll probably be America that fires shot one.


Cause some Americans are clueless idiots!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rikardo wrote:
Silvador wrote:
BloodRaven wrote:
America won't enter a conflict until shot one gets fired.


And it'll probably be America that fires shot one.


Cause some Americans are clueless idiots!


Some?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvador wrote:
Rikardo wrote:
Silvador wrote:
BloodRaven wrote:
America won't enter a conflict until shot one gets fired.


And it'll probably be America that fires shot one.


Cause some Americans are clueless idiots!


Some?


Well it's a lot better than saying ALL!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah war... another stupid thing where program to do...
just because... if it's pride, cult or religion
or "may way is better then yours" bs
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22195453

North Korea decides to talk, on condition that the UN and the joint US South Korea don't intervein!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All things considered, that's a startling piece of news. More so since they were pretty adamant on their war threats. Not only did they rip the peace treaty and cut off the red phone to South Korea, but they also specifically threatened the US on where they will launch their I.C.B.M.'s, those being Austin Texas and L.A..

What's your take on this all gentlemen?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolf Stride wrote:
All things considered, that's a startling piece of news. More so since they were pretty adamant on their war threats. Not only did they rip the peace treaty and cut off the red phone to South Korea, but they also specifically threatened the US on where they will launch their I.C.B.M.'s, those being Austin Texas and L.A..

What's your take on this all gentlemen?


NEWS FLASH!!! They never signed a peace treaty since the Korean War, so it's still on going, but not as much!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then what was that whole peace treaty thing signed 50 years ago that Kim Jung Un recently ripped up in national television under the words 'I feel we are no longer obligated to follow such triffling things'. It was a simple piece of paper in agreeance that neither country would bomb itself, so...

... news flash for you?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolf Stride wrote:
Then what was that whole peace treaty thing signed 50 years ago that Kim Jung Un recently ripped up in national television under the words 'I feel we are no longer obligated to follow such triffling things'. It was a simple piece of paper in agreeance that neither country would bomb itself, so...

... news flash for you?


That was NOT an official Peace Treaty, there never was! That was JUST a normal treaty that he just torn up in propaganda!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't that still have counted to prove a point? I mean... yeah, the borders are still a war torn area of all sorts of wrong, but don't you think it still served some purpose considering they still kept the document for so long and decided to use it for propaganda once the U.N. stepped in due to more Nuclear Testing?

It was still an official paper.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolf Stride wrote:
Wouldn't that still have counted to prove a point? I mean... yeah, the borders are still a war torn area of all sorts of wrong, but don't you think it still served some purpose considering they still kept the document for so long and decided to use it for propaganda once the U.N. stepped in due to more Nuclear Testing?


It was still an official paper.


Unless it's fake, and never was a treaty!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was still considered an official paper, recognized by both Korea's as a means to keep both from outright bombing one another. The war was never put to an end, but so far you haven't heard in the news that both Korea's have been reduced to dust and rubble.

So for the most part, it can be considered that it was quite in fact, real. However, that point is void now. Let's drop this line of subject before we become rude.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolf Stride wrote:
It was still considered an official paper, recognized by both Korea's as a means to keep both from outright bombing one another. The war was never put to an end, but so far you haven't heard in the news that both Korea's have been reduced to dust and rubble.

So for the most part, it can be considered that it was quite in fact, real.


That treaty was a ceasefire, not a peace treaty. Hopefully from this talk, they could make it happen!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's hope that said talks do get somewhere. I'm not so sure North Korea is looking for the cease fire, unless they get those sanctions lifted though.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rune174 wrote:
A pre-emptive strike seems to be the only solution to this problem. North Korea will strike, its just a matter of when.


North Korea cannot afford to strike. They cannot handle to feed their population and depends on other country to survive. The nuclear warheads are a ace in their hand to force the other to conceit the their request. The simple fact that they make so much propaganda point that this is for show.

La menace n'est pas là.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The talks would only result in a stall tactic for North Korea until they acquire better technology for nuclear missiles.As for striking,I wouldn't put it past them but their missiles can only reach certain locations mostly in the Pacific to begin with.As for the food,most of it comes from China and the U.N. so while the countries from the U.N. will still continue to send food for public relations purposes,China would most likely not have such qualms about doing so as a means to end things quickly.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, they only have 4 I.C.B.M.'s with Nuclear Strike capabilities with the farthest ones reaching as close as Alaska and Hawaii. They don't have any mobile platforms or methods to send the Nuke overseas to reach their would be targets pinpointed at the U.S., much less get a single missile off the ground with the way the Japanese S.D.F. forces are keeping an eye on them.

I'm agreeing with Cath and Raven on this one.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolf Stride wrote:
So far, they only have 4 I.C.B.M.'s with Nuclear Strike capabilities with the farthest ones reaching as close as Alaska and Hawaii. They don't have any mobile platforms or methods to send the Nuke overseas to reach their would be targets pinpointed at the U.S., much less get a single missile off the ground with the way the Japanese S.D.F. forces are keeping an eye on them.

I'm agreeing with Cath and Raven on this one.


That is assuming we have seen all the cards NK has in their hand. I mean, who can really be 100% sure that NK doesn't have an Ace up their sleeve, so to speak.

Unlikely, probably, but not impossible.
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