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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: whats your favorite mythical creature Reply with quote

i was just wondering what some of your favorite mythical creatures are

the reason for this is because i saw the new underworld movie and it was a awesome movie but it kind of made me mad on how they showed the purebred lycans as stupid creatures that had no emotions.

Any way my favorite mythical creatures are well lycans and all forms that they bring. I kind of like vampires but they just seem so watered down form what they truly where same for the lycans.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm....thats a tough one........*thinks*
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vampires are my favorite.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ashton Gray wrote:
Vampires are my favorite.


ok quick question what book/movie do you think portrays them best.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anne Rice's portrayal of vampires is what stole my heart, but vampires were my favorite long before I ever even heard of her, let alone discovered her portrayal of vampires.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like vampires as well. I find that my favorite portrayal of them is probably in the old RPG Vampire: The Masquerade. I really like the whole clan aspect with their different abilities and such. I'd like to read some good books based on the game, but then again, I tend to avoid books based on games. I have tried reading one that should be good, but I lost interest a couple of hundred pages in, because I didn't think it was written particularly well.

But I've found sme excellent vampire books that remind me of the old Vampire RPG. The Joe Pitt casebooks by Charlie Huston are awesome. It takes place in mdern day Manhattan, which is good as I prefer vampire stories set in modern times, and it has many different clans as well.



And if they count, I'd definately add zombies to the list as well. I love the old fashioned slow moving ones. I know that there have been books and movies with fast zombies, smart zombies, or zombie animals, but I prefer it when it's the good old braindead zombie. And no magic either please.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I read the Dragonlance trilogy, there was a character named Lord Soth who was the basis for a new type of evil: the death knight. The character was even more entertaining to read in the Ravenloft books (Knight of the Black Rose and Specter of the Black Rose). Blizzard adapted their own version for the game of World of Warcraft as a playable class and these characters are nearly unstopable. One other discription could be 'Darth Vader with a fantasy instead of sci-fi setting.'
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vampires are over-rated, and about the only film vampires I've liked in recent years were the ones in 30 Days of Night, because they were more brutal, animalistic, and didn't act like Anne Rice vampires. As far as I'm concerned, Anne Rice is the worst thing to happen to vampires, making them sympathetic... screw that, I want my vampires to be scary and unconcerned with human lives, not any of this Twilight moral non-killing vampire B.S.

Oh, and can we stop calling them "Lycans"? They're werewolves, damnit!

sorry, just felt like venting...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kitsune, tricksters and powerful yet also capable of compassion and love. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, and can we stop calling them "Lycans"? They're werewolves, damnit!


sry johnny but your wrong again a Lycan is a human with the ability to morph not just into a wolf but other creatures such as bears, tigers, cats, dogs, and other animals what you are thinking of is the mainstream form of lycanthropy witch is the ability to change into a wolf like human (or werewolf)

sry just had to point that out I'm a huge lycan buff.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do ghosts count?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't truly know

i find it kind of funny that every one is naming a mainstream creature.

some of my other favorite mythical creatures are leviathans, minotaurs, kerakens, hydras, dragons, draconis...thats all i can think of right now
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

((Isn't lycanthrope technically an angilifcation of a greek word?))

((So... being the Goth chick, I felt I have to say something about the current state of vampires...

First, Johnny Six-Teeth, if you think some of the illustrations of vampires are bad because of Anne Rice or Twilight, you should see them in a lot of the current spin of anime. Seems vampires, and their derivatives, are good money these days. Myself? I always kinda liked the old Vampire Princess Miyu... cold... ruthless... cunning... trapped in a girls shell for eternity. Or the ORIGINAL Vampire Hunter D. To me, no line was more chilling that Dracula saying, "Boredom. Neverending and ceaseless boredom."))

((...and don't get me started on the drivel that is "Twilight"))

((So, I really don't find vampires all that exciting a mythical beast. Intriguing, yes. Nifty, yes. Makes for both a good ghost story, a fallen hero, or a chance of redemption story, sure... but not really that interesting. To me, it's gotta be a Shide, pronouned "she". Which are real elves.))

((Mystically powerful, perfectly beautiful, amoral, and immortal. Hollow... empty eyes that knew everything, but where dull and soulless. They knew 'right' from 'wrong', but they really didn't care. Shide would interact with humans. Why? Boredom. But, for all their power, they learned one human trait. Jellousy. In our mayfly brief lives, we could portray such a range of emotions that the Shide tried constantly to mimic them. And, when they could not, they did learn one thing. Jellously.))

((So, for me, it's gotta be the Shide))
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter_wolf wrote:
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Oh, and can we stop calling them "Lycans"? They're werewolves, damnit!


sry johnny but your wrong again a Lycan is a human with the ability to morph not just into a wolf but other creatures such as bears, tigers, cats, dogs, and other animals what you are thinking of is the mainstream form of lycanthropy witch is the ability to change into a wolf like human (or werewolf)

sry just had to point that out I'm a huge lycan buff.
Sorry, but the name "Lycan" is wrong in and of itself, because "Lycan" obviously comes from the word "lycantrhope", which is actually Greek for "wolf man" (lycoi/λύκος meaning "wolf", and anthropos/άνθρωπος meaning "human/man"). In this sense, "Lycan" is derived from "wolf", making the whole name wrong if in fact Lycans are able to metamorphize into other animal forms.

A slightly better name would have been just to call them shapeshifters, skinwalkers (for a Native American bent), or perhaps even pooka/puca.

[Edit]Just thought of another word: "zoanthrope"
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A slightly better name would have been just to call them shapeshifters, skinwalkers (for a Native American bent), or perhaps even pooka/puca.


((You could also call them Doppelgangers... for that German slant ^_^))

((Sometimes the Germans have some really awesome words for stuff.))
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I simply prefer werecreatures if it's meant to include werewolves, werebears and such.


and I see your point about vampires, Johnny, though I probably like them a bit more human than the ones you like. They are quite often portrayed in a too romantic way.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caroline wrote:
((So... being the Goth chick, I felt I have to say something about the current state of vampires...

First, Johnny Six-Teeth, if you think some of the illustrations of vampires are bad because of Anne Rice or Twilight, you should see them in a lot of the current spin of anime. Seems vampires, and their derivatives, are good money these days. Myself? I always kinda liked the old Vampire Princess Miyu... cold... ruthless... cunning... trapped in a girls shell for eternity. Or the ORIGINAL Vampire Hunter D. To me, no line was more chilling that Dracula saying, "Boredom. Neverending and ceaseless boredom."))
Actually, I found the portrayals of vampires in Hellsing pretty interesting, if only because Alucard was a total evil badass. Also, Vampire Hunter D was, and still is, my favorite anime.

Also, kudos for bringing up the old Irish mythology. The name "sidhe" seems to have become synonymous with "faeries" and "spirits", and there's lots of examples of them in the Irish and Scottish folklore, like the bean sidhe (or "banshee", meaning "woman of the sidhe") and the cait sith (pronounced "ket shee", meaning "fairy cat")

BTW, what's up with you constantly mocking my name?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

((One thing I do like about the Celtic language... you can mis-anglicise stuff, and it's still okay. I did mean "Sidhe", not "Shide" like I had typed.))

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BTW, what's up with you constantly mocking my name?


((*shrug* I dunno... just thought it was our thing. I really didn't mean anything by it. Sorry. Sad I'll... um... not do it anymore.))
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((One thing I do like about the Celtic language... you can mis-anglicise stuff, and it's still okay. I did mean "Sidhe", not "Shide" like I had typed.))

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BTW, what's up with you constantly mocking my name?


((*shrug* I dunno... just thought it was our thing. I really didn't mean anything by it. Sorry. Sad I'll... um... not do it anymore.))
Nah, that's alright... I was just afraid I had offended you in some way, that this was your way of getting even or something. You can keep doing it if you'd like, Miss Wellwater Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most cultures have a form of vampire, I suppose it is a race memory of when our ancestors would drink blood ether of enemies, to gain their strength/courage or cattle as sustance. Though I am sure that the human digestive system cannot derive any benefit from 'raw' blood. Curious
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xivk wrote:
Do ghosts count?


That is a very complicated subject. As there are many different meanings and terms. Ghost, Spirit, Phantom all are used to discribe a single phenomenon, but each have different interpretation. Also are such phenomenon "Mythical"? Pegasus the winged horse is mythical, but ghosts to use a generic term, are observed and measurable to certain extent.
Though of course exactly what is being seen and measured is open to argument and conjecture.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, and can we stop calling them "Lycans"? They're werewolves, damnit!


sry johnny but your wrong again a Lycan is a human with the ability to morph not just into a wolf but other creatures such as bears, tigers, cats, dogs, and other animals what you are thinking of is the mainstream form of lycanthropy witch is the ability to change into a wolf like human (or werewolf)

sry just had to point that out I'm a huge lycan buff.
Sorry, but the name "Lycan" is wrong in and of itself, because "Lycan" obviously comes from the word "lycantrhope", which is actually Greek for "wolf man" (lycoi/λύκος meaning "wolf", and anthropos/άνθρωπος meaning "human/man"). In this sense, "Lycan" is derived from "wolf", making the whole name wrong if in fact Lycans are able to metamorphize into other animal forms.

A slightly better name would have been just to call them shapeshifters, skinwalkers (for a Native American bent), or perhaps even pooka/puca.

[Edit]Just thought of another word: "zoanthrope"



ok so i did use a bad name and I'm sry for that, you are right in the seance that lycan comes form the Greek word lycanthropy and yes it is just to point out the fact that the creature is a werewolf in a way.
but what I'm talking about is actually a purebred witch had no human body to speak of it was first spotted in a wolf like form so the history for them is kind of off and i thank you for pointing out my mistake about the name and I am sry for the confusion the true name for them would be zenothorpe if that helps.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't know where to start. I don't really have a particular favourite when it comes to mythical creatures, there are so many I like. Skinwalkers of different sorts are one type that I like. The most recent version that I enjoy is the werecats in the Inheritance series - which brings me neatly on to another mythical creature I love, dragons. I quite like vampires, too. One of my favourite creatures, though, hasn't been mentioned yet - the phoenix. Then there's also centaurs, pegasus, rocs, there are loads more. Oh, and, yes, sidhe are interesting, too.
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O.O wow i'm gone for one day and allready there are two pages here! good lord!

but i do enjoy the fact that so many creatures are mentioned here. this will make a very interesting topic.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Saphron, one day and two pages on the thread, mostly focused on Nosferatu and were-beasts. I think we need to drift away from the supernatural and go towards the more fantasy based creatures such as griffons and wyverns.
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Oh, of course, how could I forget gryphons/griffins? Oh, and the sphinx is quite interesting, too. I don't just mean the famous Egyptian statue. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if we're talking such creatures. then Id probably say a Wyvern. I used to like those when I was a kid, because they looked kind of cute with just two legs.
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vampires and were creatures are all well and good, but they are too comercialised for my tastes. now what you don' see much of are the celtic creatures of myth. for once i'd like to see a good, and i mean good not a lord of the rings reel, with the true elves and thier customs. they weren't immortal either, they had a drink they fermented from a special friut gron in their realm that gave them an extended life. it was this same drink that gave them their elfish features, and smooth skin. they didn't have magick abilities either. nor did they glide across the ground. they were like avery other human save for the fact that their skills with a sword and bow were bested only by their manner of thinking they were the superior race and treated others as such.

sorry..^^; i kinnda went over bord on info there. can you tell i really like the elves? or whatever their celtic name was?
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Tearlach wrote:
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Do ghosts count?


That is a very complicated subject. As there are many different meanings and terms. Ghost, Spirit, Phantom all are used to discribe a single phenomenon, but each have different interpretation. Also are such phenomenon "Mythical"? Pegasus the winged horse is mythical, but ghosts to use a generic term, are observed and measurable to certain extent.
Though of course exactly what is being seen and measured is open to argument and conjecture.


so... this would be a inconclusive moment. @_@
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i would think so.
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