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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Looting in London, England. Reply with quote

The last few days have seen wide spread rioting and looting in areas of London.
The police, though present in large numbers cannot do very much because due to HUMAN RIGHTS if they as much as raise their voices or God forbid, use some harsh language. They are condemned for being too heavy handed as law abiding citizens are burned out of their homes, their businesses broken into and looted and the citizens themselves beaten if they try to stop them.

Welcome to Britain where if you are caught breaking the law, you just scream Human Rights and you will be patted on the head, given a lollipop and told not to be naughty again.

Sorry I just feel like having a rant. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow thats... crappy...

remind me to stay out of londom
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEWS FLASH!

British Riot police given new powers to deal with Rioters/looters!
Here is some footage showing the police dealing with the current situation....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuNbwCq9JZ4&feature=related
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn straight
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dam, the riot idea is spreading.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

((Hey Tearlach,

I hope you don't mind some... bleak humor so... anyway.

Did you know that there are more guns in the country than in the city? Every farmer and their mom has one.

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...yeah... that's my lame attempt at humor based on "Hot Fuzz", which I bet is a completely accurate description of police work in England.

Anyway, couldn't the Riot Police say something like "What? What did you say? You want me to beat you harder?" or something when rioters claim civil rights/human rights or something?

I mean, shoot, here in the states, you're lucky if you just have the firehose, dogs, and tear gas shot at you. If the cav comes, they come swinging.

And, even more weirdly oddly, I had to take counter-riot training before I went overseas in 2006. We got to use a pepper-gel that foamed on contact with skin in practice. Really brutal stuff.))
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who hurt others while they break the law should be dealt with harshly. Its one thing to break the law peacefully, but by using brunt force to harm others is just plain...... insane.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over night more looting and rioting. Imagine your largest city and then six or seven of that city's districts erupting in to violence and destruction, with the police helpless to intervene.
Now that this organized mayhem has spread to SIX other cities in the UK. Why? Is it because the youth want to make a statement about the cuts in education, the bleak chances of getting a worthwhile job? NO! " Let's smash that shop and get some watches".
Go on to YouTube, where these pieces of shit quite proudly upload footage of their activities; these fucking ungrateful,lazy, ignorant little C***S are only concerned with getting what they can get their greasy little paws on.
Where is our government?
ON FUCKING HOLIDAY! Not in this country, obviously. But abroad, soaking up the sun and relaxing!
Send in the army, declare marshal law and shoot a few of the little bastards.
We are too damn soft in Britain and that is a FACT!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the Government is not going to do anything to stop the riots that fucking bullshit. What do they hope to accomplish by rioting and looting it just seems idiotic and rather pointless. If they really want to get there point across why do it with mindless violence it just going to make the situation worse than it already is.

Hope your safe over there Tearlach
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People use their hate because they believe that they have the right to, because there is limited to no control by the governement. Even if they do excercise their status, they do it so minimally that it could barely get into the papers.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caroline wrote:
((Hey Tearlach,

I hope you don't mind some... bleak humor so... anyway.


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...yeah... that's my lame attempt at humor based on "Hot Fuzz", which I bet is a completely accurate description of police work in England.


Well it is a little exaggerated, but essentially true. British police officers are only armed with an extending baton and CS Gas. Only one police force in this country allows Non-firearm officers to use tasers. Armed officers travel in pairs in patrol cars and respond to calls concerning firearms and other heavy weapons, Machetes, swords ect.

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I mean, shoot, here in the states, you're lucky if you just have the firehose, dogs, and tear gas shot at you. If the cav comes, they come swinging.


Anything decision to use force like that in this country has to be taken at the highest level, just in case any of the little darlings are hurt. dry Evil or Very Mad

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And, even more weirdly oddly, I had to take counter-riot training before I went overseas in 2006. We got to use a pepper-gel that foamed on contact with skin in practice. Really brutal stuff.))


There was a program shown earlier this year on BBC television. In in four police officers from forces around the world came to Britain to observe how the British police dealt with crime. One was a colonel in the Columbian police force, another was the deputy commissioner of the Zambian police, the third a Australian police constable and the forth a woman police constable from the island of Samoa. Believe me when I say that all of them expressed shock and horror when they saw how British police officers are treated by the general public. All said that in their own countries that such behavior would not be tolerated and the offenders would have been arrested on the spot. The Zambian Commissioner went as far to say that the offender would have been beaten before being put in the cells for the offence.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caroline wrote:

And, even more weirdly oddly, I had to take counter-riot training before I went overseas in 2006. We got to use a pepper-gel that foamed on contact with skin in practice. Really brutal stuff.))


You must go to some very scary places! Shocked woot Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hope your safe over there Tearlach


Where we live is about 35 miles from the troubles, but you can still see the smoke by day and a dull glow at night.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder how it would turn out to go into a riot with sword and shield to take on the rioters. lol
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should go Spartan on them lol

I'll cover ya with my vast array of shotguns, pistols, sniper rifles, or assault rifles.

I thinks those punks should be "educated" in ass kicking by yours truly.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok ill rush in there and if you see someone sneaking up on me you shot em.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we need the Tank police.


I used to drive tanks for a living. Scary things.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who called these babies to fight?!

We fight like men!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Speechless* Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speechless to the comic or the totally smart duo there?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like a funny strip to me. And I agree with the artist's view point and his sources seem pretty reasonable too. Sums it up pretty nicely.

Still, I think it's not the people but their subculture. To them, it's acceptable behaviour and perhaps they even justify it to themselves. Not to say that there should be no punishment or correction for these people involved. I mean it all started with an armed gang member getting shot and certain folk got all pissed off at this, then they start this shit and then the rest start other shit because they think no one can stop'em. Dudes shit don't make sense lemme get my supa-glue and fix it right up.

But then again I'm talking about something I don't know anything about.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the riots that I have seen, usually do start out as something small, like what was said there that a gang member had been shot. Most of these gangsters then feel that it is their 'right' to do as they please and cause civil disobedience. The rest of the dumbshits that usually follow, are most of the time following some incomprehensible logic that makes no bloody sense, yet has the "They're at fault for obvious reasons! We have our right to do as we please!" motif behind to just give them an excuse, are opportunists who simply have a bone to pick with the police and wanna make a quick buck or are in a full sense a bunch of idiots who just wanna throw a rock or two at the cops.

It isn't my right to speak of it, since I know very little of the situation, but I am sure it's safe to say that London needs a disciplinary commuter there, American style. I mean....over here, just showing the finger to a cop or insulting their mother would equal to getting whacked with the good ol' nightstick and a second offense would mean incarceration for disturbing the peace.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The military should be enacted and end it right there.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xivk wrote:
Speechless to the comic or the totally smart duo there?


Speechless because of this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

there was a link to this news site and the cartoon was based on what these two girls said.
London last night was quiet but children as young as seven or eight wearing ski masks were joining in the looting in the city of Birmingham.

This is the first time I have ever said this. The peoples behaviour in this country of England makes me feel ashamed to be British and ashamed even to think that I am the same species as these self-serving, inbred, moronic creatures.
When I see the dignity and courage shown by the peoples of Japan, New Zealand and Australia during their recent disasters. Then I watch my own people acting like this, I think this country deserves to fall, that the Welsh and Scottish peoples are right to declare independence from England.
They are right to cut away the dead and putrid flesh that this country has become. Even animals do not behave like this.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is getting out of hand, if something doesn't happen soon to put a stop to it it's going to come down to other countries step in and start using violence on both adults and children to bring it under control
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No offence but that's sounds like a civil war could start of at least a general uprising.
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the way it's going it could easily start a civil war, if those people aren't brought under control soon
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it still going on?
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Seems like it, Rune.
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