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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Impeach Bush? Reply with quote

Yes please!


http://www.impeachbush.org/


Personally, I think he is the worst President of all. It's time to do something about it.

I can go on and on about him. But, I'm sure most of you already know why.

Nuf said.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bold statement Mr. Trang. I applaud your willingness to make it openly.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hah.I wondered when this was going to hapen.Actually Im suprised he got this far.As for the statement:"The worst thing thats hapend to the U.S"-i say half the world.Too many soldiers lost their life for his ambitions,not only US soldiers infact.Im quite sure it will reach a milion and over,but the question is:will it be enough? Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YAY! USA will be better without him. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair, the worst President in history award would probably go to James Buchanan, as his administration was mostly at fault for the Civil War. I'm no fan of GWB, but until the blue states actually secede from the Union, there have been worse presidents.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let us not forget about "good" ol' Nixon, the only president in U.S. history to be impeached.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nixon was not impeached. He resigned first.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep hearing divided opinions on that, it's very confusing sometimes.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, so far in history there have only been two presidents who have been impeached, though neither were removed from office. They were Andrew Johnson (seventeenth president, sworn in after the assassination of Abraham Lincoln) and Bill Clinton. The reason for this is because the U.S. impeachment process is a two-step process.

First, the House of Representatives must pass an "article of impeachment" by simple majority, and which point the defendant is considered "impeached". Second, a trial is held by the Senate, and a two-thirds majority vote is needed to convict, and if that happens then the accused is forced out of office and may be further barred from holding public office. If a two-thirds majority isn't made in the Senate, then the accused is acquitted and there is no punishment. This is what happened to both Clinton and Johnson, both were acquitted when the Senate failed to get a two-thirds majority (Johnson by only one vote!)

Richard Nixon basically stepped down before the impeachment proceedings went under way. The articles of impeachment against him had already been agreed upon by a House committee and reported before the full House of Reps, but they had not yet gone through the first step when he resigned. His successor, Gerald Ford, granted Nixon a full pardon afterwards, ensuring that there would be no further action taken against him.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to mention that Nixon did some good while in office, him being the first President to successfully open diplomatic relations with China. In fact, aside from the Vietnam War, his administration actually did a fairly good job when it came to foreign policy. Now, domestic issues, that's a whole 'nother story....
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nixon got things done, but there was no doubt that a fair amount of corruption was within his administration. He wasn't a terrible president, he just got caught sticking his neck out for people he probably should have avoided any contact with. He was corrupt, but at least he was competent, which can't be said of Bush...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have any of you seen the movie Fahrenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore?
To say the truth,I admire Moore.Not only does he hate Bush,he has made several bestsellers agianst him.Then came the movie.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Those people with enough sense to make a difference in politics, have enough sense not to get involved."
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad but true.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sure that Bush wont last long.USA wont allow him,not anymore.Principes mortales, respublica aeterna,as an old latin saying goes.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YoungCesar wrote:
Hah.I wondered when this was going to hapen.Actually Im suprised he got this far.As for the statement:"The worst thing thats hapend to the U.S"-i say half the world.Too many soldiers lost their life for his ambitions,not only US soldiers infact.Im quite sure it will reach a milion and over,but the question is:will it be enough? Confused


Before i continue i think that you should know that i am a us marine and have served time in Iraq furthermore i have lost friends to this war... i don't want your pity and i don't want to hear any condolences what i want is for you to think... it is pointless to blame thier deaths on bush it has gone to far for that... Blame those who killed them
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as an slight edit to my last post i am not objecting to the idea of impeaching bush... that may be what is good for this country, its just that Young Caesars comment hit a rather raw nerve
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A smart distinction to make, your edit. Remember, everyone else, no comments of sympathy or condolences.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel i've been misunderstood here.Im not offering pitty.If you are a soldier you already know what you're getting yourself into.I have not been to Iraq nor am I a soldier in the Army.I know what it is to loose someone close,be it a relative or a friend.But let me ask you Bestile,what would you have done if someone came in your home carrying a gun?
But lets not base our acquaintance on a strife.If you ask me...it would have been better without a war.
Peace.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no real disagreement here have you ever heard the quote "a true warrior prays for peace, for only he knows the true price of war" we never asked for the war we just do our job... now one last comment there is no house to house anymore its all hidden explosives.... but yes i get and understand your point
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another version of that quote I've heard goes "Pray for peace, prepare for war." I can quote a couple of other versions as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well they aren't quite the same but they are similar enough...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Different versions of one core saying tend to get that way after a time.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

true enough
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Si vis pacem, para bellum ! Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some ones been watching the punnisher
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"If you want peace, prepare for war" I believe is the translation.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it is... a rather famous quote that has been made more famous recently in the move The Punnisher
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to necropost, but I must say this.


Everyone, watch what happens this January. If what I've heard is correct, once Bush leaves office, he will be arrested and tried as a war criminal, and finally get what he deserves.
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