X-COM Enemy Unknown!

[Ronald]

Guys!

I'm excited about X-COM Enemy Unknown! The new remake of the 1994 game!


Steam is doing preorders now!!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/200510/

Or get the collectors edition from Amazon!


I can't wait for this game. Who else is into X-Com ?


-R
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[Tariel_Uhara]

Pols to be very interesting to say the least.
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[Silvador]

Too expensive, imho. Besides, I already have Xenonauts.
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[Ronald]

X-com in 1994 was the best game ever! Well its a toss up between that and the starcontrol series.
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[Silvador]

I haven't played X-Com, so I'm not about to say anything is better than it. But I understand that Xenonauts is basely the same idea as X-Com, in fact, inspired by X-Com.

I have no doubts that X-Com is probably a great game, but as I already have Xenonauts to play (and quite enjoy it when I actually remember to play it), and the new X-Com is some $60 compared to Xenonauts' substantially less $30 (for the Premium Alpha version), I think I'll stick to Xenonauts.


Just my 2 cents.
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[Rune174]

It looks like a fairly decent game. I've never heard of any of these games till recently, but I may get it after its official release and get more feedback on it.
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[Ronald]

Free DEMO is now available!!!


http://store.steampowered.com/app/200510/


Get your free demo!
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[Silvador]

I tried out the demo. It was ok. Though there seems to be rather mixed results on the Steam forum.
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[Ronald]

Demo was way too short. Wish it was longer.

The press demos I've seen on YouTube were fantastic.

Press people gets more than we do. Lucky bastards.
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[Tariel_Uhara]

Isn't that how it always happens? The public gets the short end of the stick, unless you catch it at one of the big conventions. Oh well, it looks to be promising nonetheless.
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[Ronald]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJLFNYhq1YM

#1 game for top seller on Steam right now.

Can't wait for this! It's out next week!!!
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[Silvador]

I think the main problem is that a lot of the old fans are bitching because it has been "dumbed down" for the modern generation. I've seen a lot of people on the Steam forum complaining that "it's not X-Com". Thing is, that's right. It's not X-Com. Didn't the developers say they were intending this to be a game of its own?

I'm well aware that demos only ever show a mere fraction of a game's potential, usually, and it looks to be a good game. However, as I said before, I think that the price is stretching it a bit, expecially when Xenonaunts is going for a 3rd of X-Com: EU's asking price. While Xenonaunts may not be quite as flashy as EU, it still has excellent gameplay and massive potential because it's still only in alpha.

I will get X-Com: Enemy Unknown... but not until it's on sale for at least 50% off.

Just my thoughts.
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[Caroline]

((Hey Silvador,

X-Com has a setting for whiney, older, players on the posting forum saying that the new game is too easy. It's called "Classic". "Classic" is pretty much a brutal setting, as the original game.

Anyway, when you do get X-Com, I think you'd enjoy it. It has a solid amount of replayability. It can be challenging... to the point of frustrating. And it does have that bit of dark-twisted ness you seem to enjoy. ))

[Silvador]

[Caroline]

((...and this is why I so rarely talk to you Silvador.

[Silvador]

If you were in fact agreeing with me, then why not just say so? Why feel the need to inform me directly, in that insulting manner, of something that only pertains to those whom the insult was supposedly about?

As for my... tone towards you, you have yet to give me a reason to respond any nicer. Look back, Caroline, you will see that every time I speak against you in such a way, it is only ever preceded by your patronising and controlling attitude. I respond in kind. Step on my toes and I will damn well stand on yours.

Perhaps you should lose that chip off your shoulder once in a while and realise you are no better than the rest of us. Maybe then we will be able to have a more reasonable discussion.
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[Caroline]

((Silvador,

I called you out, as you were the one who posted their disappointment about Steam-Forum posters. Hence, I figured, you made the post, I'd let you know I actually agreed with you. The logic made sense to me. If Adept would have posted that comment, I would have addressed the forum post to him.

Now, as to your other thoughts, again, I see we are at an impasse. I feel zero need to change my personality. If I have to deal with your personality, you have to deal with mine.

I will, in an uncharacteristic display of humility, apologize for not making my original post (dated 14 Dec, 12:56pm) more obvious in that I was agreeing with you and your thoughts on Steam-Forum-X-Com posters. ))

[Silvador]

I accept you apology and will in turn apologise for assuming your implication.

For the record, however, I wasn't actually voicing any disappointment in the Steam Forum posters. I was merely stating what I had seen. While I do not share the disappoint many other plays have towards the game's differences, I'm not incapable of seeing their perspective.
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[Caroline]

((Silvador,

No need to apologize.

All,

Anyway, to me, X-Com: Enemy Unknown and X-Com should be two different games. I understand the appeal of nostalgia, and the desire to bring old stuff back into the forefront... however, more often than not, if someone tries a complete remake of a previously enjoyed game, that game just won't be the same. I would love to see System Shock 2 return, either as a PS3 or PC game; however, I know that it will not. Games have evolved since the days of System Shock 2... and, if nothing else, it would probably never even get out of the legal battle. Something similar is how Hollywood is remaking a lot of old movies again... with mixed results. Some are new, re-imaging of an old movie... while others attempt shot-for-shot remakes that just do not work. And... System Shock 2 was given a reboot, of sorts, in the Bioshock franchise.

Anyway, for a game example, Zelda, the original one for the NES, should never be remade. The game worked for the system it was on, the limitations of that system, and for the time it was produced. If they remade Zelda now exactly as it was back then, it would be pounced on by the community. Shoot, even "retro-throwbacks" like "Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World" are more just designed as an old game, but severely modernized, as you can buy new moves, the graphics are HD, while still looking retro, you have save points, etc. What Zelda has done, is re-imagined itself. Different, but similar, stories... different, but similar characters, locations, art-styles, story-styles, abilities, music, mood, etc. The next generation of Zelda still has some iconography that links it to the old-Zelda, but they are all unique in their own ways. Same can be said for Super Mario. Each iteration is still Mario... but each is new in it's own way.

Anyway, getting back to X-Com: Enemy Unknown, I'm actually glad that Take 2 Interactive Software made a new game, instead of just trying to completely re-package the old game. I've played/beaten X-Com... I haven't played X-Com: Enemy Unknown. And, it is fun, finding the little X-Com easter-eggs hidden in the game... like the fact the arcade games are all labeled "X-Com", and have the old model of the characters, or that the aliens have all the old, classic, names.

Anyway, for me, X-Com: Enemy Unknown is a well put-together game. It does use a lot of the iconography from the original series; yet, gives the game a solid reboot, making it new, and not just a re-hash. One of the biggest things I like is that you can alter the difficulty mid-game. If it starts being hair-pullingly frustrating, you can downgrade the difficulty... if it seems too easy, you can upgrade the difficulty. And, the difficulty has a lot of effects... random events are increased. The quickness of introducing bigger aliens is faster. Countries are more likely to panic if you don't get your defenses up quick enough. Research and construction times seem to take longer.

So... yeah. Just some quick thoughts from me. ))